Serial, from the This American Life family, is a hit — to the point where it's now got spinoff podcasts at both Slate and The A.V. Club, the latter of which calls its Serial recap podcast the Serial Serial. The air is getting pretty thin up here, no? Against this background, NPR's Gene Demby and I sat down to talk about the phenomenon of meta-podcasts, and more generally about the spectator sport of Serial-watching (well, listening).

The front, where you find the cafe, is open to the public. The nerve center of the space is an atrium of open workspace, which costs a few hundred dollars a month for membership. The outer rim of the bullpen is lined with glass-enclosed studios where mid-stage startups rent space next to one another, but don't get tied to long-term leases.

Full of dynamic, progressive-rock-inspired songs that would make the members of Yes jealous, Plumb is seasoned with just the right amount of handclaps, acoustic guitar accents, bubbling synths and segued song suites to appeal to both the long-haired rock theoreticians of yesteryear and the bespectacled post-rockers of today, not to mention those simply looking for their New Favorite Band. I'm pretty sure I've found mine.